I have written previously about George White and Elizabeth Allen. Both George and Elizabeth were from Birmingham in Warwickshire, England. Both of them were transported to the Australian Colony of Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania)[1] where they met and married. This post attempts to unravel their children.
It appears that George and Elizabeth had thirteen children: Seven survived to adulthood - Joseph, George, Elizabeth, Emma Amelia, Edwin, Alice Ann and Ada; while six died young - Ann, Alfred, Wallis, Alfred Wallis, Alfred and Walter. For some of these children, birth and death registrations are proving elusive. Perhaps some were not registered?Joseph White (b.1846 d.1927) and George White (b.1847 d.1928)
George and Elizabeth’s first two children were born on 22 May 1846[5] and 7 July 1847[6] in Hobart while George and Elizabeth were still convicts. The name of the child is left blank in their registrations:Extract from: RGD33-1-2 Image 168 Entry 1715 via Libraries Tasmania Online Collection |
1846 Births in the District of Hobart: No. 1715; Born May 22nd; Name _____; Male; Father George White; Mother Elizabeth White formerly Allen; Father’s profession Brickmaker; Informant Elizabeth White X (her mark) Mother New Town Road; Registered June 8th.
Extract from: RGD 33-1-3 Image 17 Entry 165 via Libraries Tasmania Online Collection |
1847 Births in the District of Hobart: No.165; Born July 7th; Name _____; Male; Father George White; Mother Elizabeth White formerly Allen; Father’s profession Brickmaker; Informant Elizabeth White X (her mark) Mother New Town; Registered August 12th.
It can be inferred from the 1860 birth entry of their younger sister Alice Ann [Registration 9189/1860], that these first two children are Joseph and George. Alice Ann’s birth entry lists Elizabeth and George’s two oldest children in May 1860 as being: Joseph 13 and George 12[7].Both Joseph and George lived to adulthood.
Joseph died at the age of 81 on 14 August 1927 at Fielding in the Manawatu District of New Zealand (Registration Number 1927/5941)[8]. He is buried in Fielding Cemetery [Plot 910, Block 2][9].
Births, Deaths & Marriages Online [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
George died at the age of 81 on 23 August 1928 at Hunterville in the Rangitikei District of New Zealand (Registration Number 1928/3668)[10]. He is buried at Hastings Cemetery, Hawkes Bay, New Zealand [Plot F/#/581][11]
Births, Deaths & Marriages Online [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
Ann White (b.1848 d.1849) and Elizabeth White (b.1849 d.1902)
Extract from: RGD 33-1-3 Image 91 Entry 904 via Libraries Tasmania Online Collection |
Extract from: RGD 33-1-3 Image 180 Entry 1790 via Libraries Tasmania Online Collection |
1849 Births in the District of Hobart: No.1790; Born September 2nd; Name _____; Female; Father George White; Mother Elizabeth White formerly Allen; Father’s profession Brickmaker; Informant Elizabeth White X (her mark) Mother; George Street; Registered September 26th.
It can be inferred from the 1860 birth entry of their younger sister, Alice Ann (Registration 9189/1860) that these records belong to Ann and Elizabeth. Alice Ann’s birth entry lists Elizabeth and George’s third and fourth oldest children in May 1860 as being Ann deceased and Elizabeth 11[16].Death Index - Registration 14272/1902 via Births, Deaths, and Marriages Victoria [Website] |
SHEPHERD Elizth; Death; Mother Elizth, family name ALLEN; Father White Geo; Died Kang Flat; Age 53; 1902; 14272/1902
Alfred White (b.1851-d.1853)
Sometime after Elizabeth was granted her conditional pardon, George and Elizabeth moved with their family to Auckland, New Zealand where their next child Alfred was born on 21 February 1851[23].Births, Deaths & Marriages [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
The family didn’t stay in Auckland for long. They were soon back in Australia; this time in Victoria where Alfred died aged just 2 years. This was in 1853 in Melbourne, Victoria (Registration 3320/1853)[25].
Wallis White (b. abt. 1852/early 1853 d. unknown, possibly 1853)
The oldest ten children listed in Alice Ann’s 1860 birth entry (Registration 9189/1860) are: Joseph 13, George 12, Ann deceased, Elizabeth 11, Alfred deceased; Wallace [sic] deceased, Alfred Wallace [sic] deceased, Alfred deceased, Emma 5, Edwin 2[26]. This suggests that Wallis was born between Alfred and Alfred Wallis. Alfred was born in 1851 (see above) and Wallis’ younger brother Alfred Wallis is estimated to have been born in late 1853/early 1854 (see below). It is likely, therefore, that Wallis was born during 1852 or in early 1853 and probably in Victoria but this is uncertain. According to the death entry of his brother, Alfred Wallis’ who was probably born in late 1853, Alfred Wallis, was born in Tasmania. However, the family was more likely to have been in Victoria during 1853 (see below).Alfred Wallis (b. late 1853/early 1854 d. 1854)
Alfred Wallis White’s death is registered in Victoria in 1854. He was 3 months old when he died (Registration Number 884/1854)[27][28]:Death Index - Registration 884/1854 via Births, Deaths, and Marriages Victoria [Website] |
Alfred White (unknown - bef. 1858)
As outlined above, Alice Ann’s 1860 birth entry suggests that this Alfred was born after the older Alfred, Wallis and Alfred Wallis and before Emma Amelia. However, it isn’t clear how his birth could fit in? Emma Amelia was born in December 1854 (see below). Alfred Wallis was probably born in late 1853/early 1854 at the earliest (see above). There appears to be no space for Alfred. To date, I have been unable to find either a birth or death registration. Could he have been a twin to Wallis? Could he be out of order in the list? Perhaps he was born after Emma Amelia? ...?If Alice Ann's entry is correct, Emma Amelia was George and Elizabeth's 9th child. However, this doesn't appear to fit with Emma Amelia's birth entry. I have not sighted this myself but the transcript I have seen shows that, at the time that Emma Amelia's birth was registered in February 1885, George and Elizabeth had 4 living and 3 deceased children[29]. If Emma Amelia was included in that number, the 4 living children in February 1855 would have been Joseph (b.1846), George (b.1847), Elizabeth (b.1849), and Emma Amelia (b.1854). Who were the three deceased children? It is certain that Ann died in 1849, the first Alfred died in 1853 and Alfred Wallis died aged 3 months in 1854. It is Wallis and this Alfred who appear to have been omitted. Wallis was likely to be deceased by then (see above) but what of this Alfred?
The 1858 birth entry (Registration 8143/1858) for Edwin, born February 1858, tells us that, at the time of Edwin’s registration, George and Elizabeth had 5 living children and 5 deceased children[30]. This lines up with Alice Ann's registration; the 5 living children in February 1858 when Edwin was registered most likely being Joseph (b.1846), George (b.1847), Elizabeth (b.1849), Emma Amelia (b.1854) and Edwin (b.1858) and the 5 deceased children most likely being: Ann (1848-1849), Alfred (1851-1853), Wallis (1952/53-possibly 1853), Alfred Wallis (1853/54-1854) and Alfred. When Alfred died remains uncertain, other than to say that he died sometime before February 1858.
Emma Amelia (b.1854)
Emma Amelia was born at South Yarra in Victoria on 23 December 1854[31]. Her birth was registered in 1855 (Registration Number 1270/1855)[32] in the District of Prahan, Victoria[33][34].Birth Index - Registration 1270/1855 via Births, Deaths, and Marriages Victoria [Website] |
As discussed above in relation to Wallis and the youngest Alfred, the number of issue stated here appears to be incorrect.
Emma lived to adulthood. She married twice. She married her first husband Thomas Phillip Michelle at Benger Flat, Coal Creek, Otago, New Zealand on 20 August 1872 (Registration Number: 1872/7880[36]. After Thomas died in a mining accident, Emma married her second husband, Thomas Coop. They married on 2 January 1893 at Roxburgh, Otago, New Zealand (Registration 1869/3989)[37].
Emma was 77[38] when she died at the home of her daughter in Gisborne, New Zealand on 17 March 1932 (Registration 1932/1856)[39].
Births, Deaths & Marriages [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
You can read more about Emma Amelia in my post about her husband, Thomas Coop – The Roxburgh Years.
Edwin White (b.1858)
Edwin was born at Pleasant Creek in Victoria on 26 February 1858. His birth was registered in 1858 in the District of Pleasant Creek[41][42]:Birth Index - Registration 8143/1858 via Births, Deaths, and Marriages Victoria [Website] |
Edwin lived to adulthood. He died at the age 87 on 11 Sep 1945 at Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand (Registration Number 1945/25256)[44]:
Births, Deaths & Marriages [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
Walter White (b. uncertain d. uncertain)
I haven’t been able to find a birth registration for Walter. Based on the birth entries of Edwin (1858 - see above) and Alice Ann (1860 - see below), it appears that Walter would have been born after February 1858 when Edwin was born and before May 1860 when Alice Ann was born. Allowing 9 months after Edwin’s birth and 9 months to precede Alice Ann’s birth, this suggests Walter was born sometime between November 1858 and August 1959, approximately. However, this assumes that the birth order of children in Alice Ann's birth entry is correct. Could Walter have been born earlier between Emma and Edwin. perhaps?Death Index - Registration 3954/1859 via Births, Deaths, and Marriages [Website] |
More information may be available from a printout of the associated historical death certificate. In the meantime, it is uncertain whether this record belongs to George and Elizabeth's Walter or not. At the moment, both Walter's birthdate and death date remain uncertain. However, consistent with Alice’s Ann’s birth entry, we know that Walter died before May 1860.
Alice Ann White (b.1860)
Extract from: Birth Entry - Registration 9189/1860, District of Great Western via Ancestry.com |
Births, Deaths & Marriages [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
Ada White (b.1861)
Ada was born on 15 June 1861. Her birth was registered in the district of Ararat in Victoria (Registration 15207/1861)[53][54]:Birth Index - Registration 15207/1861 via Births, Deaths, and Marriages Victoria [Website] |
Ada lived to adulthood. She married William Henry Bentham Daniels on 19 May 1894 [Registration 1894/1871][56].
Births, Deaths & Marriages [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] |
Errors in Registration Detail – Deliberate?
As can be seen from Edwin, Alice Ann and Ada’s birth entries, over time, the information reported by George and Elizabeth gradually morphed a little from the truth.
This starts with the change in marriage place from Hobart, Tasmania to New Zealand in Edwin’s 1858 birth entry. This is more specifically stated as Auckland, New Zealand in Alice Ann’s 1860 birth entry. By 1861, when Ada was registered, the date and place of their marriage was reported as 18 July 1845, New Zealand when in fact they married on 28 April 1845 at St John’s Church in New Town, Hobart, Australia[59].
It may be that these changes were a deliberate attempt by George and Elizabeth to distance themselves from their convict past? Perhaps that is also why, after Ada was born, they chose to return to New Zealand? You can read more about George and Elizabeth in the here and here.
In the birth entries up to 1861, Elizabeth and George’s place of birth was correctly shown as Birmingham in England (Warwickshire). In Alice Ann’s 1861 entry, both George and Elizabeth are listed as being born in Worcestershire. While this may have been deliberate for the same reason as the other changes, as suggested above, it could also have been a transcription error, 'Warwickshire' being replaced by 'Worcestershire'?
Facts and Guesswork
As I said at the outset, this post is a mix of fact and guesswork. The birth and/or death dates for some of George and Elizabeth’s children remain uncertain. My estimates largely have their basis in what can be discerned from the birth entries for Emma (1955), Edwin (1858) and Alice Ann (1860). They are reliant on the children’s birth order given in Alice Ann’s birth entry being correct. It may not be. My investigation into birth dates for both the second Alfred and Walter raises the possibility that they may not be appropriately placed in the list?While some of the dates are uncertain, at the very least, this provides a reasonable guide to focus a search for the missing birth and death records. More work to do!
Postscript
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[1] Van Diemen's Land was the original name of the island of Tasmania. In 1803, the island was settled by the British as a penal colony and became part of the British colony of New South Wales. In 1824, Van Diemen's Land became an independent colony and in 1856 was renamed by the British to Tasmania - Van Diemen’s Land via Britannica, The Editors of Encyclopaedia. Encyclopedia Britannica, 11 Jan. 2022 [Website] Accessed 28 February 2022.
[2] I am grateful to the information compiled from the birth entries by PK Bain, Dunedin (descendent of Edwin White) and to Don Stevens (descendant of Emma Amelia White) who kindly shared the information with me.
[3] Information compiled by PK Bain via Don Stevens - See note 2.
[4] Copy of Birth Entry - Registration 9189/1860, District of Great Western – provided by Alison and shared via upload to Ancestry.com by Judy Scothern on 16 December 2011 Accessed 1 April 2022.
[5] Registers of Birth in Hobart, Launceston and Country Districts (RGD33) – RGD33-1-2 Image 168 – Entry 1715 - Male registered 8 June 1846 via Libraries Tasmania [Website] Accessed 14 March 2022.
[6] Registers of Birth in Hobart, Launceston and Country Districts (RGD33) – RGD 33-1-3 Image 17 Entry 165 Male registered 12 August 1847 via Libraries Tasmania [Website] Accessed 14 March 2022.
[7] Copy of Birth Entry - Registration 9189/1860, District of Great Western – provided by Alison and shared via upload to Ancestry.com by Judy Scothern on 16 December 2011 - Accessed 1 April 2022.
[8] Registration Number 1927/5941 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] Accessed 31 March 2022
[9] New Zealand Society of Genealogists Incorporated; Auckland, New Zealand; New Zealand Cemetery Records Image via Ancestry.com. New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Accessed 31 March 2022.
[10] Registration Number 1928/3668 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website]. Accessed 31 March 2022
[11] Burial and Cremation Register [Digital Index] Hastings District Council [Website] Reference 504316. Accessed 31 March 2022. [While the website indicates that he died on 25 August 1928, 25 August is probably the burial date as both the gravestone and the birth registration indicate 23 August 1928].
[12] Registers of Birth in Hobart, Launceston and Country Districts (RGD33) – RGD 33-1-3 Image 91 Entry 904 Female registered 23 August 1848 via Libraries Tasmania [Website]. Accessed 14 March 2022.
[13] Registers of Birth in Hobart, Launceston and Country Districts – RGD 33-1-3 Image 180 Entry 1790 Female registered 26 September 1849 via Libraries Tasmania [Website] Accessed 14 March 2022.
[14] Convict Records - CON34-1-5 via Libraries Tasmania [Website] Accessed 14 March 2022.
[15] Convict Records - CON40/1/2 Image 29 via Libraries Tasmania [Website] Accessed 14 March 2022.[16] Copy of Birth Entry - Registration 9189/1860, District of Great Western – provided by Alison and shared via upload to Ancestry.com by Judy Scothern on 16 December 2011 Accessed 1 April 2022.
[18] Registration Number 1874/13324 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website]. Accessed 31 March 2022.
[19] Victorian cemetery records and headstone transcriptions. Genealogical Society of Victoria Inc, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Names were indexed by volunteers of the Genealogical Society of Victoria Inc Transcript via Ancestry.com. Victoria, Australia, Cemetery Records and Headstone Transcriptions, 1844-1997 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. Accessed 1 April 2022.
[20] Family History Search [Digital Index Search] via Births, Death and Marriages Victoria [Website]. Accessed 31 March 2022.
[21] Find a Grave Transcript via Ancestry.com. Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. Accessed 1 April 2022.[22] Victorian cemetery records and headstone transcriptions. Genealogical Society of Victoria Inc, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Names were indexed by volunteers of the Genealogical Society of Victoria Inc Transcript via Ancestry.com. Victoria, Australia, Cemetery Records and Headstone Transcriptions, 1844-1997 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. Accessed 1 April 2022.
[23] Registration Number: 1851/1312 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website]. Accessed 14 March 2022.
[24] Information from Registration 1851/1312, Auckland, compiled from the birth entry by PK Bain, Dunedin (descendent of Edwin White) and kindly shared with me by Don Stevens (descendant of Emma Amelia White).
[25] Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Death Registration 3320 Transcript via FindMyPast [Website]. Accessed 29 March 2022.
[27] Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Death Registration 884 Transcript via FindMyPast [Website]. Accessed 28 March 2022
[28] Family History Search [Digital Index Search] via Births, Death and Marriages Victoria [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.
[29] Information from Registration 1270/1855, District of Prahan, Victoria, Australia, compiled from the birth entry by PK Bain, Dunedin (descendent of Edwin White) and kindly shared with me by Don Stevens (descendant of Emma Amelia White).[30] Information from Registration 8143/1858, District of Pleasant Creek, compiled from the birth entry by PK Bain, Dunedin (descendent of Edwin White) and kindly shared with me by Don Stevens (descendant of Emma Amelia White).
[36] Registration 1872/7880 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [digital index], New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs Accessed 1 April 2022.
[37] Registration 1869/3989 Births,
Deaths & Marriages Online, [digital index], New Zealand Department ofInternal Affairs Accessed 1 April 2022.
[38] Her headstone incorrectly says 78 years.
[40] New Zealand Society of Genealogists Incorporated; Auckland, New Zealand; New Zealand Cemetery Records Image via Ancestry.com. New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Accessed 1 April 2022,
[41] Pioneer Index, Victoria 1836-1888 Transcript via Ancestry.com. Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Accesssed 1 April 2022.
[42] Family History Search [Digital Index Search] via Births, Death and Marriages Victoria [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.
[43] Information from Registration 8143/1858, District of Pleasant Creek, compiled from the birth entry by PK Bain, Dunedin (descendent of Edwin White) and kindly shared with me by Don Stevens (descendant of Emma Amelia White).
[44] Registration Number 1945/25256 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.
[45] New Zealand Society of Genealogists Incorporated; Auckland, New Zealand; New Zealand Cemetery Records Image via Ancestry.com. New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Accessed 1 April 2022.
[46] The Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths, and Marriages; Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; Victoria, Australia, Death Records Transcript via Ancestry.com. Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2018. Accessed 28 March 2022.
[48] Pioneer Index, Victoria 1836-1888 Transcript via Ancestry.com. Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Accessed 31 March 2022.
[49] Copy of Birth Entry - Registration 9189/1860, District of Great Western – provided by Alison and shared via upload to Ancestry.com by Judy Scothern on 16 December 2011 Accessed 1 April 2022.
[50] Registration Number 1878/2305 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.
[52] New Zealand Society of Genealogists Incorporated; Auckland, New Zealand; New Zealand Cemetery Record Image via Ancestry.com. New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
[53] Pioneer Index, Victoria 1836-1888 Transcript via Ancestry.com. Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Accessed 31 March 2022.
[54] Family History Search [Digital Index Search] via Births, Death and Marriages Victoria [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.
[55] Information from Registration 15207/1861, District of Ararat, compiled from the birth entry by PK Bain, Dunedin (descendent of Edwin White) and kindly shared with me by Don Stevens (descendant of Emma Amelia White).
[56] Registration Number 1894/1871 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.[57] Registration Number 1936/25568 Births, Deaths & Marriages Online, [Digital Index] via New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs [Website] Accessed 1 April 2022.
[59] Tasmanian Archive & Heritage Office Tasmania Marriages 1803-1899 Image via FindMyPast [Website] Accessed 13 March 2022.
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